DEBATES ARE A WASTE OF TIME! why?

Hi Jose,

You are absolutely correct in what you are saying; and being for years part of the “system” counter to my experience.
I was “never in the system”  –   I had all intentions of going to college, went to Boston Univ. night school but couldnt write, had to drop out!
I am not against “education per se” since my blog is classified as “education” I am against the system used by our educators who I believe are NOT  qualified  despite their socalled PHd’s and of course I use the only person I knew as an example, my exwife, since I was never involved with PHd’s in general, my background as you know, is based on the opposite of what we call education; its based on “common sense” whatever that “is”.
in my lifetime I found as you know uneducated people like you mentioned Edison as one, more not educated, but more resilient using what the Lord gave them, called common sense, to direct their lives.
I am a perfect example of that  1) ran the most important office , the Asst Captain of the yards office in the Charlestown Navy yard.  Our office had two officers, and three clerks, I was the last to be hired, and all of them passed DOWN their work to me, being a “rapid speed typest, young, vigorous, I could do all the work along with handling three phones constantly ringing, when everyone mysteriously left the office.
do to antisemitizm I changed my job and opened the FIRST TUG BOAT OFFICE, previously we hired outside tug boats  – they put an officer who could not do a damn thing, totally uneducated most of the time being out of the office on “binges” – they knew that I was in charge,
 
I got an award for operating the best “operation in four states” and guess what anti semitizm had my record accomplishment at a score
of 61, if it was at 60 I would have ben automatically fired.
 
I left because of antisemitizm  –  went to work for my father, and the family I grew up in, prospered thru my ability, this time focused on
helping my family “get out of poverty instead of working for anti-semites!
 
all of my brothes prospered thru my efforts, and that includes their kids also since they are still in business.
 
I left my business when my wife did not consider equal to her PHd status  – demeaned me despite the fact that my effort made her PHd possible  –
 
just shows how humble PHd can be; she demeaned me any time she had the opportunity  –
 
so who needs her?  in 1972  we split  – she went her way; I went my way=  I retired – was wise enough to know how to support myself.
 
how many people can retire at the age of fifty:  I was one of them, – but then it was not me of course, I am just another ego, it was my guide that I call my channel  –
 
and it writes all of my blog letters, I just happen to be a good typist with a lousy nervous keyboard that continually makes typos but then I told the people reading my blog, that typos, spelling errors have to be overlooked,
 
WHAT S IMPORTANT IS ‘NOT THE LETTER’ BUT THE SPIRIT, if it bothers people, that is the typos, then they should stay in their “comfort zone” which is the perfect place for them; not what my channel is writing about.
 
they are NOT READY FOR CHANGING WHAT THEY WISH TO CHANGE
 
my friend, always,\
maurice
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 12:22 PM,  wrote:

Hi, Maurice

 
You make a good point about educational institutions of higher learning. The same argument
could be made about our ‘wasteful’ public education. But if we’re going to have any chance 
of educating our young people to go beyond ‘zero knowledge’ and achieve an educational 
base that at least will provide them with a springboard for them to grow in consciousness on
their own, then the country needs to work hard to improve the offerings and delivery of such 
educational institutions. In any case, they serve a purpose —  a pragmatic one, to fill jobs and 
provide a base for future leaders to grow. It’s an imperfect system but the alternative is worse.
 
Other institutions you do not mention that also ‘pays no taxes’, keep all their earnings, and severely 
corrupt the content and character of the human soul are religious institutions. As you know, too many
of our citizens in the USA and Israel are brainwashed by ‘manufactured learning’, and they go through
life making terrible and counterproductive choices, sapping the energy of their nations, and negatively
affecting themselves personally, and the rest of society as well.
 
It goes without saying, that most, if not all, of the Republican T-Party candidates come from such a
dogmatic and doctrinaire ‘religious background’. In my view, that’s perhaps the greatest threat to our society’s 
developing true consciousness and obstructing our natural evolution and well being.
 
As Islamists work to regress the societies in their own countries so does T-Party religious extremism in the USA,
and religious extremism in Israel. Yet, many US and Israeli citizens, who are aware do not perceive this as a threat,
being totally brainwashed, apathetic and impervious to the insidiousness of religiosity.
 
Jose Luis
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—–Original Message—–
From: Rothman, Maurice
To: Jose Luiz
Sent: Sat, Aug 15, 2015 7:20 am
Subject: Re: DEBATES ARE A WASTE OF TIME! why?

Hi Jose,

HIstorically speaking I will agree with you, that is to the extent of my “own understanding of politics which is “minimul” to say the least.
I have no appreciation of “any politics, never have, never will since if a
thing is “already corrupted” there is not much I or anyone else can do, and
all politics not just what’s transpired and is transpiring in our country but every country STINKS to high heaven.
so if you deal with the “devil” you cant expect anything better than you
are getting, which of course is the “dirty dealings of both parties,” it doesnt matter if they are “T party people, Republican or Democrats.
 
with thievery there are no “distinctions” and both parties, including the T party people whether they like it or not,  KNOW THE SCORE as they
say and that includes our “honored presidents”  – either they go long
 
with the   ELITES     their hackies  THE ERUDITES  –  and their pimps
                              THE  ORDAINED  SCHOLARS
 
who control not only our government but all of our hacky educational
                                  INSTITUTIONS – who are meant
                                 to “supply the brainwashed kids
                                 as their brainwashed work force
 
then the whole system collapses   –    if the “kids get “wise” and decide\
                                  that they are being used by the
                                  and “dumps the system, what
                                 happens; it falls apart!
 
Trump being a billionaire KNOWS what’s happening and is leaking out
                                 what I said above, not indicting the
                                  educational system, Bernie Sanders
                                 will “when the right time comes  –  the
                                 “conspiracy between our government
                                 and the officials of our “illustrious
                                institutions of learning.  Which are heav
                                “in bed” with our crooked politicians.
 
the oligarks make sure that they DONATE PLENTY OF MONEY TO OUR COLLEGES, to get the tax credits they need; a good example is right
here in our state of Ma.  loaded with colleges who pay no taxes although loaded with property, forcing our city to raise taxes on landlords who have to “raise their rent” who suffers?
 
                                   the poor suckers who kiss 
                                   the asses of our illustrious
                                   colleges.
                                   They pay their presidents
                                   millions of dollars for being
                                   “in bed” with the crooked poli-
                                    ticians since that is the prot-
                                    col of what a college president\
                                   is expected to do~
                                   THEY ARE POLITICAL HACKS~
historical speaking I agree with what you outline, even thouigh for me it means “absolutely nothing” because what you outline IS TO BE EXPECTED
from the minds of politicians, who would “sell their souil for a buck, once they\
found a “BUYER” WITH BIG BUCKS.
who said so?  the big buck boys   – Trump just said so in his last interview; he has little respect for the “big buck boys” since he knows “what’s up and what’s down in this world of CORRUPTION.
for me it doesnt matter whether they are dems/reps or T boys  – the “game is the same” and what is the game?                 \\
                         WHO  HAS  FIRST  THE FIRST WORD
                               AND   THE    LAST   WORD
WHO HAS THE MOST MONEY TO SHILL OUT TO THE GREEDY POLS.
AND  ONLY  THE  ELITES WITH THEIR BILLIONS   –   TO PAY OFF THEIR
                               ERUDITES (certified hacks_
                               SCHOLARS  –  propagandists
THESE THREE  control  not  only  our country but most  countries other than
                               CERTIFIED DICTATORSHIPS
our system  is concealed of course under the “banner called democracy”
a buzz word that is meant to  “convince the pubiic that what our “public servants,what a farce”   – that they are working for us the people!
HOW LONG CAN THAT ‘FARCE’ GO ON and it has nothing to do with parties, nothing at all –  when it comes to the showdown, all of the parties
are “in it together”  conspiracy of “silence”?  of course,  when the financial system comes apart; all of the participants, pro and con and to blame!
when two EGOS DEBATE; being egos, it OUTCOME does not matter, snce being egos to start with, the END RESULT is catastrophe.
when you plant “seeds that are “corrupted” dont expect anything better than BAD RESULTS.
the ego world “on its own” doesnt need assistance in any way shape of form to do its SATANIC WORK  –
so pointing the finger on the Dems/Reps, and T people, all being egos , ends up the way they started,  you reap what you sow  –
                              THEY ARE ALL FULL OF SHIT!
now and then a guy , an honest guy like Bernie Sanders, neither Dem or Rep or T man –  gets into the picture! and what happens;
THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ARE FLOCKING TO HIM, surprising the hell out of all our “respected parties” and they are scared as\
hell what’s that ??????????????  an honest politician?  I dont believe it!
I cant believe it, –this guy is actually “telling the truth”  HE MUST BE COMING FROM A NEW PLANET OUT THERE SOMEWHERE!
if he is telling the truth;then the others are NOT TELLING THE TRUTH!
quick get the propaganda machine working 24/7 DISCREDIT THIS GUY, both parties have to discredit this guy, and that also goes for the T people also!
WE CANT ALLOW BERNIE TO WAKE UP THE DEAD; TO WAKE UP THE PEOPLE, THE 98% WHO HAVE BEEN IN A COMA FOR HUNDRES OF YEARS, TALK ABOUT A CATASTROPHE!
so what happens  – the three socalled enemies, the Dems/ vs Rep’s both vs. the T people SUDDENLY become “buddies”   –   that also includes the five corrupt Supreme Court Judges, of course got their job from whom
                                       FROM STUPID GEORGE
what the hell is going on in this world made up of satanic forces parading pretending to be “our friends” and that includes our “illustrious forces\mentioned in this letter!
so dont support, dont renounce, dont pay any attention to political garbage, because its ALL GARBAGE any way that anyone looks at it  – its basically
stupid talk by stupid people promising the world to STUPID PEOPLE!
solution??  there isnt any and hasnt been any now throughout the Piscean age of 25,000 yrs (the piscean age) which is coming to an end.
when we all return for the next incarnation,- the people replacing these stupid people will KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.
“to make a difference, one must “know the difference”
unfortunately for us still living in this chaotic world, UNKNOWINGLY, not yo or I or the people reading my blogs, that is, if they are half intelligent of course,
its different.
so dont by the cover of the book  – by the contents and the contents as I and my channel sees it in regard to who runs the show, discounts the lame arguments of the Rep’s/Dem’s/T party because they are all EGOS each trying their best to kill the other ego, not for the benefit of all, but for the benefit of themselves.
IDIOTS COMPETING WITH IDIOTS  –  the end result?  IDIOCY!
so dont buy the cover of any book, try opening the pages first
your friend, always,
maurice
                                   
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 9:22 PM,  wrote:

Hi, Maurice

 
I’ve lived and experienced enough in my lifetime that when somebody tells me,
“I know everything and can fix anything and I’m going to do it my way”, that triggers
in me an immediate, intuitive warning that I will be totally excluded and marginalized
in every way,  shape  or form, for there is the precedent of the 1930s Germany. Such is
the case with all of the T-Party presidential  candidates,  especially the caricature of a
human being named DTrump.
 
Before he even took office, BObama was targeted by the Republicans as a
“sacrificial lamb’ to offer the obstructionist T-Party extremists. BObama never had 
a chance at an honest partnership with the Republicans–they repudiated him with
the same dehumanizing intensity  as the  Germans repudiated Jews during WWII.
 
History will be a better judge of BObama’s presidency than you or I can ever be.
However, there is no doubt that he has delivered on the major goals of his
political platform in spite of the hate and recalcitrant opposition of the Republicans:
Healthcare, bin Laden, jobs, ending the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars, saving the auto
and the financial industries, extracting the  country from a deep Economic Recession
equal to, if not more dangerous, than the  Great Depression,  and his great devotion to
helping the poor and the marginalized  in our country. I’m not saying  he is perfect. Not by
any means. But McConnell and Boehner  should be tried for High  Treason, as they have
labored intractably to regress the advancement  of our country to serve their own political
asses and achieve their nefarious goals.
 
As to the Republicans inviting BNetanyahu to speak to Congress, bypassing
protocol and purposely disparaging BObama, it’s worthy of note that the Knesset
did not Reciprocate by inviting BObama to speak to its members. WHY? Could it 
be the dishonest goal of backdoor political collusion? It would have been beneficial for the 
people of Israel to hear the President speak to them personally, and have a constructive 
debate about the serious issue of Iran. But it never happened. WHY? What was BEBE, the
Macho Men, afraid of, a crumbling economy? Talk about disrespect and backstabbing! 
Nothing transcendental in  any of those actions!
 
It took the Piscean Age 35 thousand years to start morphing into the Aquarius Age. 
Don’t you think that we should give ourselves, human beings, a bit of time to achieve
peace through change, raise our consciousness and metamorphose into enlightened, 
spiritual beings? It’s my firm belief that war, or the specter of war, has delayed and
retarded the evolution of human consciousness. Should we, then, continue to advocate 
for  more  war and human killing  every time there is conflict without first attempting reconciliation
through diplomacy?
 
RNixon accomplished reconciliation with China, and RReagan with Russia through
diplomatic means, ending decades of enmity and conflict. Who would have thought it 
possible, especially any aware human being who lived during the time of Mao Ze Dong and
the dictatorial heirs to JStalin? And, by the way, a greater and wiser effort at diplomacy 
would have prevented WWII, but it failed.
 
“One creates his/her own reality”. BNetanyahu wants war and BObama wants peace. It’s
still in the realm of the unknown which of either reality will save humanity from total destruction, 
but  the writing is on the wall.
 
Jose Luis
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—–Original Message—–
From: Rothman, Maurice
To: Jose Luiz
Sent: Fri, Aug 14, 2015 5:17 pm
Subject: Re: DEBATES ARE A WASTE OF TIME! why?

H Jpse.

You wee around when the people of Iran rose up against the regime-
and Obama did nothing  – di that stop the regime from doing what the id?
of course not!
what would have happened if Churchill did not “raise his voice?
Obama is a misfit, a perfect misfit for presidency!
and honest historiians will show it!
talk about the wrong guy for presidency?  I am not against “helping
people called social justice, that is in the Torah; also in the Torah are
leaders that the real guides the “prophets railed about”
Obama is a two faced hypocrite   –  he ostensibly does it for the people, a bleeding heart and then  appoints people in power positions that DO THE\
OPPOSTE OF WHAT HE PREACHES.
AGAIN THAT IS CALLED A HYPOCRITE!
do you think that the world in general can be adjuicated by a person who has no connection whatosever to the higher dimesnions in life.
of course my blog is “meant to make people aware of the “fact” that the higher dimensions called the world of Cause,  –  makes the world of Effect and not the other way around.
if this wasnt so, why did many of the prophecies of Edgar Cayce, who WAS IN THE HIGHER DIMENSIONS WHEN HE GOT HYPONOTIZED.
predicted things “long in advance”
if this is so, your arguement concerning Obama’s actions  – as you say in this letter, are VALID.
THEY ARE NOT VALID!
THE WAR IS NOT BETWEEN PEOPLE’S ACTION ITS A WAR BETWEEN THE LIGHT AND DARK FORCES IN THIS WORLD!
and who predicated that the Torah, the Prophets and not the pundits at the time!
the reason,logic,intellect crowd got it all wrong, bigtime wrong!
there is no one in “their crowd” that has the FACILITY of going beyond!
they are “ants in a world of elephants”  –   depending on their PHd status
to give them the “respect” that the PHd honors them with .
they lack the INNER TRUTH OF WHAT IS!
and OBAMA regretfully so is one of them.
President Lincoln had his own Mrs Besant, guiding his actions !
he was a believer of the fact that we socalled humans have two minds;
the mind of CAUSE as explained above; and the mind of EFFECT as
explained above.
unfortunately for him the people working with him were phonies  – he was lucky with Grant because all Grant wanted was alcohol which NUMBED him to the extent that casualties meant nothing for him –
it was a war of attrition; the side tht had the most soldiers, most arms finally won the war which of course saved the day for Lincoln and our countries future.
people living in the “present” using their reason,logic,intellect are INCAPABLE of seeing beyond their nose – thus continue on to the path of destruction.
and that is the SUMMARY OF THE PISCEAN AGE  –  the stujpidity of mankind, thus the emergence of the powerful NEPTUNE ERA, which undoutedly means total destruction of the past, without a trace –  total destruction, and we are presently in that Process whether we like it or not.
THE PLANETS IN OUR ZODIAC CONTROL OUR TIME/SPACE DIMENSION; WE ARE LULLED INTO BELIEVING THE WE HUMANS ARE,
                                    WHAT A   F A R CE  for an ass!
the UNIVERSE IS THE DETERMINATOR OF WHAT IS  –  NOT  US!
MAN THINKS IT HAS A HEGEMONY OF HIS/HER FUTURE  – OBAMA
IS FOOL ENOUGH TO BELIEVE THAT  – KERRY IS FOOL ENOIUGH TO
BELIEF THAT AND HIS ALLIES IN THIS CASE IS THEIR OPPONENTS
THE CHINESE, NO. KOREANS, RUSSIA, IRAN,IRAQ,THE PLO, HAMAS, ANDTHEIR FRIENDS IN LEBANON, AND ALL OF THE OTHER DICTATORS OF THE WORLD AT THE PRESENT TIME.
AND MOST OF ALL, THE 98% OUT THERE WHO “LACK THE GREEN STUFF UPSTAIRS “TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE”
to make a difference, one must “know the difference”
they do not simply because they are using THEIR WRONG MIND!
they are using their outer mind of “reason,logic,intellect” that utilizes the’
three criminal systems in our world  THE ELITES,ERUDITES,SCHOLARS
one without the other  cannot work, its a conspiracy of the highest order!
eliminate our educational systems and these criminals will drop death, since they need young people who have been thoroughly brainwashed to run their criminal empires.
ask Trump, he is a graduate of that system since he went to one of the best colleges, Wharton School of Finance, meaning he is no dullard although he sounds like one, acts like one, to “dull the senses” of his opponents.
                                       HE  IS  NO  DUMMY
HE MAKES DUMMIES OUT OF PEOPLE HE DISRESPECTS AND GETS AWAY WITH IT; THAT IS HIS STRATEGY, AGAIN HE IS NO DUMMY!
your friend, always,
maurice
PS.  it takes one to know one!  I may be “honest” but that doesnt mean that I dont know what hypocrites are all about; I lived with my mother  who would/could outwit any human being on this planet including donald trump
WHEN IT CAME TO CUNNINGNESS SHE COULD NOT BE BEAT THE REASON WHY SHE DID NOT LIKE ME; I COULD SEE THRU HER FAKERY!  trump appeals to the people who want “true change” not the pablum that each candidate will continue to feed them once in office. Obama promised but never delivered, he is not one of them anymore; he is mucho millionaire!
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 3:49 PM,  wrote:

Hi, Maurice

 
Two observations:
 
1)  If we don’t pay close attention to who could be our next president, we could end up
     with another Hitler or Putin —  Donald Trump or another of the T-Party extremists who
     are presidential candidates.
 
2)  BObama did not intervene in Iran because he did not want to be the one one responsible
     for WWIII.
 
Jose Luis
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Maurice Rothman
Jose Luiz
Sent: Fri, Aug 14, 2015 2:31 pm
Subject: DEBATES ARE A WASTE OF TIME! why?

I have been wasting my time watching a debate on the U Tube.

why is it a waste of tme?
the reason why I have a blog  —    to prove to the people coming to my blog that –  nothing is ever resolved with debates  –
the participants still hold on to their “beliefs”   –   since they beleve that their beliefs are “telling the truth”; tha is both sides of the “issues”
people listening to the debates will agree with the “side that they are already  believers of”
its a charade  –
nothing is ever learned because ” if it “fits” wear it, if not throw it out!
which means of course that people listening to debates have already chose which side that they are on
as they say “its already in the can” movie maker talk of course!
so how are people able to “know the difference”?
well, that is what my blog is all about   –  helping people DISCARD THE RUBBISH that people put into their head, either by hearing rubbish, reading rubbish or by any other psychological method of brainwashing available today..
most of this rubbish is thru the media, computer, etc. etc. and people spreading lies to each other!
that is why 98% of the world’s people  –  are puppets controlled by the “elites who own the media, the elites who control the erudites socalled “smart people” and of course the writers; the scholars who
disseminate lies to “tie of this bundle called conspiracies!
how else can you control the “masses”
democracy is basically the “right to vote” but then dictators like Hilter got elected president as a democracy.
and who would even attempt to dispose a crooked president, –  other than “go to the streets”
the Iranian people did that hoping that our country would assist them in their effort for freedom.
did Obama do anything about it?  NO  why didnt he?
he used the lame excuse that he didnt want our country to mdle into the affairs of other country.
WHAT A DAMN LIE  –  our army is spread all over the world  -we have bases in practically all the counties on our planet!
talk about meddling in other countries
something “smells in Denmark”
now Obama is “bowing down to Iran”  why?
do we have to wait until Obama leaves office to find the truth?
and what “is the ostensible truth”
again, something “stinks in Denmark”
maurice

 

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