From: Rothman, Maurice < >
Date: Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: TELEPATHY IS IT “A FACT” OR JUST A THEORY
To: Jose Luiz < >
of course I had not treacher other than “what I came in with”.
as mentioned, my grandfather was UNlearned but very pious in
his belief in the Five Books of Moses.
other than the “story line” basically the EXODUS” as said, he
new very little; he read Hebrew but to my knowledge, Was unable to
understand what it said – and because of that I was also UNlearned
in Hebrew and in the religion “that I chose when I came int tohis
No fault of his of course, and no fault of mine since he also like
my mothers,father’s family were UNTAUGHT, living and growing
up in a village.
so, other than being “humble, contrite in all ways, “no power under
the Sun, brainwashed me – but then- unknowingly I cam in as a
“channel” so why would I need other “direciives”????????????????
in my day, no Jewish boy/girl would EVER marry out of the faith that
they chose to “come back in”
and that meant people like my two brothers who paid no attention
to the fact that they were Jews; and of course my exwife who was
an atheist still wanted to marry within her culture – her uncle was
allso an atheist, his wife was also Jewish.
what’s happening today of course – other than the orthodox the
cultured Jewish kids dont care who they marry, boy or girl –
tha’s gone by the wayside –
so what is the significane of all this?
obviously religion per se, are on their death beds, and that has been going
on for a very long time.
what I am doing with my blog side is to “awaken the dormancy of not the
religons per se but the neglect by the people today in regard to the meta-
physics of “what all of this is about;
you present “your experiences, your beliefs etc, and I do quite the opposite
coming in as a “psychic” channel” its obvious that my “beliefs” would be
the opposite of those who were not like me.
the reason I was bi-polar for fifty years, and suffered terribley doing that time.
its the old story – two people looking at the same thing, and coming up with
different ‘VIEWS’ of what they are witnessing?
the answer is simple of courss- BELIEF ORIGINATES FROM THE INSIDE, NOT THE OUTSIDE unfortunately only two percent “know the difference”
the 98% Buy the Cover of the Book; the two percent buy the contents.
TRUTH RESIDES INSIDE; NOT OUTSIDE BUT WHO KNOWS THAT?
ONLY TWO PERCENT OR LESS KNOW THAT!
EDUCATION JUST COMPOUNDS THE PROBLEM SINCE PEOPLE BUY EDUCATION AS THE TRUTH, WHICH OF COURSE IT ISNT.
KNOWILEDGE HAS NO CONNECTION TO TRUTH WHICH AS SAID, DOES
NOT EXIST ON OUR PHYSICAL TIME/SPACE WORLD.
” BEAUTY IS IN THE “EYE” OF THE BEHOLDER
WHICH MEANS – ELIMINATE THE EGO SENSES-EGO METHODOLOGIES
THEY SMELL WORSE THAN A DEAD FISH!
your friend, always,
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 10:29 AM, < wrote:
I received a thorough lesson on the meaning of CONSCIOUSNESS when the
Catholic Church tried to indoctrinate me as young boy. But they couldn’t sink
the claws into me because I had already develop Consciouness by studying
with the Jesuits on a Liberal Arts program.
The infused me pragmatism and with a high degree of idealism. My takeaway
from them is that a person must stand by his/her convictions and vet them
continuously, never back down if proved correct and share wisdom with others.
This has been my motto throughout life. And I’m extremely happy with it.
Thus, my spiritual tilt originated as young boy but was nurtured at home by my
two matriarchs into adulthood.
From: Rothman, Maurice <
To: Jose Luiz <
Sent: Tue, Jun 14, 2016 1:54 pm
Subject: Re: TELEPATHY IS IT “A FACT” OR JUST A THEORY
for me the appropo word for what we are debating is:
and what is consciousness”
the simple explaination for me particularly is”
another word is ” aware” these are all under the banner of of the word
and as we investigate this word “correspondence” using the “tools that
Dr. Swedenborg’s work “entailed” we discover that this word COR-RES-PONDENCE is perhaps one of the “powerful word” in the two worlds
that we live in; the time/space world and the “no” “nospace” world
this word can be applied in both worlds – and “each world” being
“privy” to “its meaning according to what? according to the world
that this word “only APPLIES to”
the definitions – and – there are many perhaps hundreds or even thousands, depending on the contexes that they are used for:
MEAN DIFFERENT THINGS _- THUS DIFFERENCES BEGIN TO SHOW
UP – DEBATES, CONTRIDICTIONS, ARGUEMENT, DIFFERENCES BE-GIN TO REAR THEIR “UGLY HEADS” WARS, REVOLUTIONS, REBELIONS, THE WHOLE SHABANG STARTS ERUPTING BECAUSE:
EACH SIDE BELIEVES THAT THEIR PARTICULAR CORRESPONDENCES ARE THE “TRUE ONES” OVERLOOKING COMPLETELY ONE LITTLER FACT , A FACT THAT BOTH THE RIGHT AND LEFT HEMISPHERE’S WOULD AGREE ON – THAT IS THE MIND SET OF BOTH OPPOSITES.
and what would that be?
the word of course is: T R A N S C E N D E N CE”
and what “is” transcendence? what is being transcended and why?
the what is the socalled argument, debate, the socalled “case-in-point”
IS IT AN EQUAL ARGUEMENT/DEBATE?
OF COURSE NOT, CANT BE? WHY? BECAUSE BOTH HEMISPHERES ARE MEANT TO DO “THEIR OWN THING WHATEVER THAT IS” AND NEITHER SIDE CAN INTERFERE WITH EITHER SIDE.
YOU CAN MIX THE CHALF WITH THE WHEAT; PEOPLE HAVE TRIED BUT IT DOESNT WORK!\
WHY? BECAUSE EACH HAS THEIR OWN SYSTEM, ONE WORKS ON BETA AND OTHER OTHER WORKS ON ALPHA – THEY HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON DESPITE NAYSAYERS WHO DONT KNOW ANY BETTER.
THIS IS ALL BOILS DOWN TO: “WHAT STATE OF CONSCIOUSNESS THE PERSON,PERSONS ARE “LIVING IN THEIR LIFE”
CAN THIS BE PROVEN, MEASURED: OF COURSE MY BRAINWAVE TECHNOLOGY INSTRUMENT DOES IT IN LESS THAN ONE MINUTE.
THIS IS HOW IT WORKS? IT CAN DEAL WITH ALL KINDS OF FREQUENCIES. IF THE PERSON BEING CHECK IS INVOLVED WITH THE BETA/EGO FREQUENCY; THE INSTRUMENT WILL SHOW IT.
IF THAT EGO PERSON TRIES TO ENTER INTO THE ALPHA FREQUENCY, HE/SHE WILL IMMEDIATELY FALL ASLEEP.
BETA IS EGO – ALPHA IS NON EGO – THE NON EGO ALPHA PEOPLE WILL NOT FALL ASLEEP WHEN THE INSTRUMENT IS “TUNED INTO THE ALPHA FREQUENCY.
THIS ALSO HAPPENS WHEN I DO MY RADIONICS.
PEOPLE INTO BETA/EGO CANNOT HANDLE THE POWER OF THE RADIONIC DEVICE AND HE/SHE ALSO FALLS ASLEEP SINCE THE
FREQUENCY IS TOO STRONG FOR THEM.
SO THE KEY TO THE PUZZLE FOR ME AND FOR OTHER INVESTIGATORS OF HOW THE MIND OPERATES – KNOWING/UNDERSTANDING THE PRINCIPLES WITH THE VAST KNOWLEDGE ATTACHED TO THIS ONE WORD “CORRESPONDENCE” ELIMINATES MUCH OF THE FALSE BELIEFS THAT SETH WROTE ABOUT IN HIS BOOKS.
SO BEFORE ALL ELSE – SEPERATE THE CHALF FROM THE WHEAT; THE BETA MIND FROM THE ALPHA MIND – ALLOW THE WORLD OF COR-
RESPONDENCE ENTER THE ALPHA MIND – CONJOIN WITH IT –
ELIMINATE ANYTHING THAT USES THE EGO “NONSENSE” TO TRY TO
CONTINUE ON ITS PATH OF DOMINATION – IN OTHER WORDS – IDENTIFY THE CULPRIT AND LITERALLY DESTROY IT!
ECKHART TOLLE’S LAST BOOK AND THE PREVIOUS ALSO, IN HIS OWN WAY, SAID THE SAME THING.
I AM STILL WORKING WITH DR SWEDENBORG WITH HIS BOOK HEAVEN AND HELL.
NOW WHO KNOWS ALL THIS? WHOEVER DOES IS A FREE PERSON IN MY OPINION – FALSE BELIEFS WHATEVER THEY ARE DOES NOT FREE ANYONE; IT DOES THE OPPOSITE, ITS THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT THE DOCTOR WRITES TRUTH AND GOOD CORRESPOND – TRUTH AND LIES DO NOT CORRESPOND –LIES, FALSEHOODS CANNOT CONJOIN WITH TRUTH/GOOD ITS AN IMPOSSIBILITY; ONE TAKES ITS POWER FROM BETA AND OTHER TAKES ITS POWER FROM ALPHA.
WHICH WOULD ANYONE WANT TO BE “PART OF THEM”?????????
YOUR FRIEND, ALWAYS,
- LIFE IS NOT COMPLICATED IF “WE DO “NOT” COMPLICATE IT, AND WHAT I JUST SAID IS “NOT COMPLICATED” ITS SO SIMPLE THAT ANY IDIOT IN TIME OF COURSE, CAN GET IT! THAT IS IF HE/SHE IS NOT TOO “FAR GONE” I.E. DONALD TRUMP IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF COURSE.
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 1:21 PM, < wrote:
I’m not basing my understanding of the Universe solely on physicality. As indicted previously, I base my understanding on the Causal Event being responsible for everything on Earth and the Cosmos, which
does by necessity and inference include both physicality and consciousness. My view is, as also stated
previously, that both cosmological components are inextricably intertwined, and inseparable.
As you also know, I don’t adhere to the Creationist belief. So, when your message is premised on
Creationism alone, I may or may not agree with it, or parts of it. My conclusion about Creationism being
that it’s essentially a human historical record that must be vetted like any other human historical record,
as all are human crafted and easily manipulated.
In our country, every citizen is free to have his/her opinion about everything but not entitled to his/her
own facts. There are universally accepted facts that all of us must reference in order to have a constructive dialogue about any issue of importance to humanity.
Human history, whether religious or secular, becomes part of the Akashic Records and, thus, indelible
for all eternity. For anyone who believes in the Akashic Records to selectively believe in one aspect of
humanity while discarding the other simply attains a unilaterally-lopsided view of the truth, which can
and will distort reality as a global concept.
In the cosmos, nothing is gained or lost: all matter, all energy and all consciousness is merely recycled.
That’s why there is a “physical and a metaphysical”: one is observable and the other resides in transcendence
but both are part of the Holographic Principle in either form or essence–the Universal Consciousness.
Anyone is free to choose what to believe but, in projecting one’s spiritual persona to guide others, the ‘teacher’ must choose words and ideas carefully, after proper vetting. Otherwise, all of us would be guilty of Trumpisms or even Yogiisms.
I wish I could affirm with all certainty that I’m wrong about my understanding of the Universe and you are correct, or vice versa. But I cannot; I can only reach the humble conclusion that I DON’T KNOW; thus, I seek to learn
from all viable sources of knowledge, spiritual and secular.
On Jun 13, 2016, at 6:37 AM, Rothman, Maurice < wrote:
You are basing everything on the physical dimension overlooking the “stuff” that I talk about and my channel talks about.
I am NOT IMPRESSED with the physical dimension as you are; in fact I am rather depressed as people should be.
NOTHING OF LASTING GOODNESS HAPPENED IN THE TIME/SPACE WORLD TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
if the physical world is the world of EFFECT, than why not get involved with the world of CAUSE?
ONE WORLD LITERALLY DISAPPEARS AND THE HISTORICAL EVIDENCE DISAPPEARS WITH IT, – whatever remains has in my opinion no user other than the money involved with it.
you deal with the physical while I “try to deal with the non physical” why?
I AM GOING TO DIE AND SO WILL YOU, WHAT’S LEFT OF OUR LIVES FOR POSTERITY SAKE?]]
JUST HISTORY WRITTEN BY HISTORIANS WHO ARE EGO BENT?
NOT FOR ME THAT IS WHY I WRITE MY OWN OBITUARY NOT SOME GUY THAT IS A CERTIFIED EGO@
SO WHAT BLOG WILL BE MY OBITUARY –
ALL OF WHAT’S LEFT OF ME WILL OF COURSE BE MY BONES!
WHILE I LIVE IN LUXURY IN THE CELESTIAL HEAVENS
your friend, always,
On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 4:59 PM, < > wrote:
Let’s put this myth to rest. Truisms: Elephants are not known to fly and Atlantis never existed.
After checking several sources, they all came to the same conclusion, which was also my own
understanding. But elephants do fly and Atlantis did exist if any human being on this Earth insists
in avoiding real investigation and chooses to formulate historical fantasy to serve his/her own
purposed fables. Thus, you can choose whom to believe, real accounts or fabricated myth.
There is no proof or archaeological evidence that the civilization of Atlantis, circa e10,000 ago,
ever existed. Certainly that was news to the Ancient Greeks of that time, for they never heard
of it and did not record it in their oral or written tradition. Thus, Plato’s story of a war between
the Ancient Greeks and the invading army of Atlantis is the offspring of Plato’s mythological and
metaphysical tilt and creative imagination. In other words, he made it up. His name, Plato, was a
made up; his real name being Aristocles and Plato being his nickname.
Even the great Herodotus, the father of modern history, who lived one century before Plato
did not relate such a story or even mention it in any of his narratives of the Greek past. And
certainly Socrates, Plato’s teacher, when asked about it, answered that he had never heard of it.
Further, the assumed original source for Plato, the Egyptians, never heard of it.
Check the narrative below. It’s an eye opener for those who NAIVELY believed in Platos’s myth.
I should preface the following remarks by reminding people hat the story of Atlantis is told ONLY in the works of Plato, specifically in the books ‘Timaeus’ and ‘Critias’, which he penned during the 4th century BC. Many misconceptions have arisen from the fact that people have not bothered to read or understand Plato, preferring instead to lend credence to the opinions of later commentators such as Ignatius Donnelly, Madame Blavatsky and Edgar Cayce, who have consistently promoted the idea that the story of Atlantis was true in a historical sense. It is our sincere belief that these modern individuals have muddied the waters of Plato’s original account (no pun intended).
Problems with the Popular Conception of Atlantis
Problem 1: Plato
As much as Atlantis-hunters would wish Plato to have been a historian in the mould of Herodotus or Thucydides, he was not. And nor was he a geographer in the mould of, say, Hecataeus. On the contrary, Plato was a philosopher and a part-time mythologist. Moreover, he was not even an ordinary philosopher; rather, he was a ‘true philosopher’, whose interests lay primarily in metaphysical, otherworldly matters. Therefore, if there is any truth behind Plato’s account of Atlantis, it is unlikely to have anything to do with history or geography; rather, it should be rooted in myth, mysticism, esotericism and the metaphysical world.
Problem 2: Herodotus
It is highly significant that Herodotus, the so-called ‘father of history’, said nothing at all about any war between Athens and Atlantis. Writing almost a century before Plato, Herodotus was widely travelled (he had visited Egypt where the Atlantis story supposedly came from) and very knowledgeable about military history. But as far as he was concerned, the greatest wars of history had been those between Greeks and Persians, notably the battle of Marathon (490 BC), the battles of Thermopylae and Salamis (480 BC), and the battle of Plataea (479 BC). Moreover, in regard to the battle of Plataea, Herodotus tells a highly revealing story of a bragging contest between the Athenians and the Tegeans in which each side listed their greatest military accomplishments. Here, the Athenians recited their heroism at the battle of Marathon, but spoke also of their achievements in ‘ancient times’ – their intervention in the war of ‘the Seven against Thebes’, their repulsion of the Amazonians who had invaded Attica, and their instrumental role in the Trojan War. But as for the idea that their ancestors had repulsed the invasion of Atlantis, the Athenian soldiers said nothing at all – a very strange omission if Plato’s account contained any historical truth.
Plato’s story is also called into question by several other statements made by Herodotus. The greatest danger ever faced by the Athenians, he said, was when the Persian army had invaded Attica and instigated the battle of Marathon (490 BC). The biggest armed force ever assembled, he said, was that of the Persian king Xerxes (480 BC). The biggest island in the whole world, he said, was Sardinia. And the earliest sea empire in the Mediterranean, he said, had been forged by king Minos of Knossos. All of these claims fly in the face of Plato’s claim, nearly a century later, that Atlantis had been the biggest island in the world and had assembled the largest army ever, to forge the first sea empire of the Mediterranean.
Thus spoke the historian Herodotus who, had he lived a century later, would have been highly skeptical of the historicity of Plato’s story.
Problem 3: Socrates
Socrates was one of the greatest intellectuals of his day, and yet when Critias introduced the story of Athens’ heroic victory over Atlantis, he responded by saying:
“Tell me though, what was that ancient deed our city performed…? I’ve never heard of it.”
If the Athenian victory had been magnificent in a historical sense, or even in an orthodox mythical sense (as in their involvement in the Trojan War or the earlier epic battle ‘the Seven against Thebes’), then Socrates certainly would have heard of it. QED. We must be dealing here with a myth and, moreover, with a new myth – perhaps a variation on a theme.
Problem 4: The Saite Calendar
That a cataclysm could have instigated the beginning of a calendar nine thousand years before the time of Solon (c. 9600 BC) is not implausible. Nor is it implausible that such a calendar could have been preserved for nine thousand years and handed down for posterity via the Egyptian Saites (compare the Hebrew calendar which is today nearly six thousand years old). It is therefore possible that Solon (or perhaps Plato himself) learned the date of the Atlantis cataclysm from the Egyptian priests at the town of Sais. But the important question is this: is it really likely that the date of the cataclysm originated in this way?
In fact, everything we know about ancient Egypt argues against the possibility. Archaeologists have found no evidence at all for a calendar of this ilk. Nor is there any such evidence in the Egyptian texts, which generally refer to ancient events in the vaguest of terms. Moreover, even when we do find numbers in these texts, they usually turn out to be sacred, symbolic or rounded, the latter suggesting some imaginative ex-post rationalization by the priests. To presume, as some researchers do, that the Saites possessed a calendar dating back nine thousand years (to a time one thousand years earlier than the foundation of their own state) is to go far beyond what can be justified.
There is more. Why is it that the Saite tradition preserved only the date of the Atlantis cataclysm? After all, Plato had the Egyptian priest claim that several cataclysms had occurred after the sinking of Atlantis, including the famous flood of Deucalion. And yet nowhere in Egypt, nor in Plato, nor anywhere else in the Greek writings, do we find any record of the dates of these subsequent cataclysms. If Solon (or Plato) really did receive the date of the Atlantis cataclysm from the Egyptian priests, why did he not also receive the dates of the other, more recent events?
There is another problem, too. Why is it that only the Egyptian Saites preserved the date of the Atlantis cataclysm? If the event was historical and as dramatic as Plato suggests, then it would have affected much of the world and would have been recorded in other ancient traditions. But, despite the prevalence of worldwide flood myths, no record has ever been found pointing to the date 9600 BC.
In summary, it is a leap of faith to suppose that the Egyptian Saites had access to the purported date when no-one else in the world did; it is a further leap of faith to suppose that the Egyptian records were entirely destroyed (from an archaeological perspective); it is a further leap of faith to suppose that Solon had access to these records when no-one else did; and it is a leap of faith, too, to suppose that Solon’s testimony fell into the hands of Plato and no-one else. To go with all these suppositions is to hop, skip and jump into the land of improbability. And there still remains the awkward problem of explaining how Plato (or the Egyptians, if one prefers) knew the date of the Atlantis cataclysm but not the dates of the three, more recent cataclysms that followed it, including the well-known flood of Deucalion.
A more likely explanation for the date of the war is that Plato was speaking idiomatically and that ‘nine thousand years ago’ signified ‘nine eons ago’, i.e. an infinitely long time ago.
Problem 5: Lost Civilizations
The implication of the historicist argument is that two highly advanced civilizations – Atlantis and Athens respectively – existed c. 9600 BC. And yet, according to archaeologists, civilization began much more recently, c. 4000 BC (in the lands of ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia). How, then, could the two fantastic civilizations described by Plato have existed more than five thousand years earlier, during what archaeologists call ‘the Neolithic period’? The idea is controversial, to say the least.
As regards Atlantis, Plato placed the former island in the Atlantic Ocean. On this point, his language is unequivocal. Atlantis had been in the great Ocean, in the Atlantis Ocean, in the realm of Atlas, opposite the Pillars of Heracles (the straits of Gibraltar) and, fully consistent with this, the Atlantians had directed their hostilities against Europe and Asia. To look for Atlantis anywhere else but the Atlantic Ocean is to totally ignore what Plato actually wrote. Unfortunately for Atlantis-hunters, this leads to a fundamental problem, namely that scientists have nowadays mapped the floor of the Atlantic Ocean, in outline, using echo sounders, ‘Geosat’ radar and multibeam sonar, without discovering any trace of the sunken island or continent as described by Plato. The historicist interpretation of Plato’s Atlantis is thus strongly contradicted by scientific evidence.
Moreover, there is equally strong evidence against the idea of a 10th millennium BCE civilization in Athens, in Greece. The earliest temples in Athens, for example, have been dated archaeologically to only the 8th century BCE; below their foundations there is only virgin soil.
On the face of it, then, as we enter the 21st century, the notion of two highly advanced civilizations fighting a worldwide war c. 9600 BCE would seem to be a complete fantasy.
Rather, the date of ‘nine thousand years ago’ is surely idiomatic for ‘an infinitely long time ago’, as suggested earlier.
From: Rothman, Maurice <
To: Jose Luiz <
Sent: Sat, Jun 11, 2016 4:19 pm
Subject: Re: TELEPATHY IS IT “A FACT” OR JUST A THEORY
who said that this word foretold never happened?
in my opinion – mediums have existed for thousands of years,
Prophets are Mediums – Shamans are “mediums” psychics are
you are making statements “out of context”.
Atlantis in its day existed to a higher degree of development than
we have today, read Edgar Cayce who was able to “go back that
‘time and relate what Atlantis was all about.
IT DESTROYED, IMPLODED – reach a time that IT HAD NO OTHE
WAY TO GO BUT TO DESTROY ITSELF CAUSED BY THEIR
SCIENTIST, DONT TAKE MY WORD FOR IT, READ EDGAR CAYE.
YOUR UNDERSTANDING IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO FIGURE\
OUT WHAT MY CHANNEL THRU ME IS SAYING.
MY CHANNEL WHICH IS BEYOND THE TIME/SPACE WORLD
AS THE CHANNEL THAT WROTE THE COURSE IN MIRACLES,
AND OTHER FANTASTIC TEACHINGS –
KNOWS THAT IT KNOWS THAT “IT KNOWS THAT IT KNOW IT\
KNOWS, WE MERE MORTALS DO NOT!
THAT MESSAGE I GOT THRU MY CHANNEL GAVE AN REALI-
ZATION, IPETHAMY TO A YOUNG CHIROPRACTOR WHO
ATTENDED A REBIRTH CONVENTION WAY BACK IN THE
HE WAS i BELIEVE NEVER THE SAME AFTER THAT!
AND I WITNESSED THAT AND NEVER FORGOT THAT TRUTH
AS UNDERSTOOD BY CONVENTIONAL EGO MINDS, IS A\
MY BLOG IS MEANT TO AWAKEN THE DORMANCY, AS IT\\
AWAKEN THE DORMANCY OF THIS YOUNG PERSON THAT
TRAILED ME “LIKE A PUPPY DOING WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN
DOING NOW FOR YEARS, ASKING QUESTIONS OF WHY?
YOU OF COURSE ARE NOT ASKING MAURICE IF YOU THINK
SO, THEN YOU ARE NOT “CHANGING MUCH” SINCE MAURICE
LIKE AN AUTOMOBILE IS AFTER ALL ONLY AN AUTOMOBILE.
BY ITS OWN, THE AUTOMOBILE IS USELESS UNLESS ‘GAS IS
PUT INTO IT – OUR PHYSICAL-NESS IS NOTHING BY AN
AUTOMOBILE; OUR EGO IS NOTHING BUT AN AUTOMOBILE
OUR TRANSCENDANCE IS WHAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE,
BUT THEN PEOPLE LIVING IN A FALSE “PARADISE” “DONT \\
KNOW THAT THERE “ARE DIFFERENCES” AND THUS CON-
TINUE IN THEIR WORLD OF FANTASY; THE REASON THE
“MASTERS/SHAMANS” CALL OUR WORLD “THE WORLD OF
PUT UP OR SHUT UP – EITHER YOU IS OR YOU ISNT
THAT UNFORTUNATELY HAS TURNED OUT TO BE “LED ASTRAY
BY THE “FALSE PROPHETS” THAT PLY THEIR TRADE – “ELITES,
ERUDITES/SCHOLARS TO “SAVE THEIR SKINS” AND TO FILL
AND I AND MY CHANNEL INDICT THE SYSTEMS TO UPHOLD
ALL THESE FALSE THEORIES I.E. FREUD WHO WAS EXPOSED
BY WHOM? HIS STUDENTS AS BEING A FRAUD
IS FREUD STILL IN FORCE IN OUR COLLEGES? YOU BET
OUR PROFESSORS GENERALLY SPEAKING – KNOW WHAT
BUTTERS THEIR BREAD, SMART PEOPLE KNOW THAT , AND
THUS INDICT THEM ALONG WITH THEIR SUPERIORS AS
FREUD WAS INDICTED BY HIS TWO BEST STUDENTS.
MY SOURCE OF SUPPLY IS NOT YOUR SOURCE OF SUPPLY,
On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 2:13 PM, < wrote:
As I have indicated previously, when physicality is separated from spirituality,
or vice versa, it brings into play something else than is our Cosmos. In our Universe,
EVERYTHING-THAT-EXISTS is inextricably connected. Take one factor out of the
equation and whatever is our reality becomes something, totally different.
Maurice, be aware and conscious that if we use electricity, fly in a jet, have heat in
our homes, running water, double pane glass windows, Internet and technology,
ride in a car, have refrigerators, electric ovens to cook with, movies, and other
wonders of scientific vision, etc, etc, etc, is all due to the advances of science.
Yet, along with dinosaurs and the fact that the Earth is round, Creationism did not
foresee any of these human scientific advancements. Thus, it would be imperative
to ask Dr. Swedenborg the question as to WHY this human achievement has not
been foretold, either in the Torah or by him or by any other Esoteric or followers of
From: Rothman, Maurice < >
To: Jose Luiz <
Sent: Sat, Jun 11, 2016 12:48 pm
Subject: Re: TELEPATHY IS IT “A FACT” OR JUST A THEORY
we differ on “what telepathy is all about”
my experience i.e. Silva Mind Remote viewing particulary has NO PHYSICALIT TO IT,
you seem to overlook the “fact’ that physicality works only on the BETA LEVEL, telepathy cannot work on the Beta Level, needs alpha theta.
so where you got your “facts” in my opinion is false”
as said all of my comments generally speaking, deal with actualities, and insights from the Channel. Where do you get your information?
I dont of course know anything about the other POSTULATES you say; to me they mean absolutely nothing since I cannot relate to them nohow; never did, never will.
why should I or anyone believe posulates, theories by anyone regardless of rank, WITHOUT ACTUAL PARTICIPATION.
its obvious to me that “what I have experienced in my life, you “probably” have not, so you in a way have to rely on your reason,logic,intellect to determine what is and what is not?
I DO NOT, IF I DONT EXPERIENCE IT EITHER PHYSICALLY SPEAKING OR CHANNEL SPEAKING, BOTH TO ME ARE RELEVANT PROVIDED THAT I AM IN THE “RIGHT FREQUENCY MODE”
MY BELIEF IS THAT MOST ALL PEOPLE ACCEPT WHAT THEY BELIEVE TO BE THE TRUTH, WHILE LISTENING, READING WITH THEIR BETA FREQUENCY SENSITIVITES. WHICH FOR ME IS SHEER NONSENSE.
AND WHO SAYS THAT THE SOCALLED SCIENTISTS IN THEIR STUDIES AND WORK ARE IN THE ALPHA/THETA WORLD VIEW RATHER THAN IN THEIR EGOISTIC BETA WORLD VIEW.
SO FOR ME ALL OF THE POSTULATES THAT YOU USE MEAN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING SINCE I BELIEVE THEY HAVE “LIMITED UNDERSTANDING” USING THEIR EGOMIND BETA MIND FACULTY.
THAT OF COURSE AUTOMATICALLY ELIMINATES EINSTEIN AND OTHER SCIENTISTS THAT “KNOW THE DIFFERENCE”
IF BETA/EGO CAN ONLY FUNCTION WITHIN 21-14 CYCLES PER SECOND; AND ALPHA CAN ONLY FUNCTION BETWEN 14 AND 7 CYCLES PER SECOND
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? FOR PEOPLE LIVING A LIFE LIMITED ONLY TO THEIR PHYSICAL LIMITED SENSES AND LIMITED UNDERSTANDING LACKING THE REAL THING, WISDOM, WHAT I AM SAYING MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO THEM.
SINCE WHAT’S NEEDED IS MISSING – WISDOM.
YOUR FRIEND, ALWAYS
PS HOW DOES ONE BECOME “WISE” ? IS IT TRUE THE ACCUMULATON OF KNOWLEDGE? IF NOT HOW? BY BEING ABLE TO USE THE MOST IMPORTANT FACULTY THAT ALL-THAT-IS GAVE TO HUMANITY AND WHAT IS THAT? THE ABILITY THRU THE LAWS/PRINCIPLES OF THE METAPHYSICAL WORLD – ENABLING ADVANCED HUMAN BEINGS THE FACULTY CALLED TELEPATHY WHICH HAS NO BARRIERS TO OVERCOME ONCE THE WISDOM FACTOR, I.E. LIKE IN THE CASE OF ECKHART TOLLE COMES INTO SIGNIFICANCE
EVERYTHING ELSE IN MY OPINION IS ABSOLUTELY A “WASTE OF TIME”PEOPLE JUST GUESSING, SPINNING THEIR WHEELS, ETC.
On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Rothman, Maurice < wrote:
as you know I base ALL OF MY BELIEFS ON THE BASIS OF PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WHERE OTHERS LIKE YOURSELF MUST FIND THEIR OWN WAY ‘THRU THE MAZE OF WHAT IS AND WHAT ISNT TRUTH.
interpreting the work of jANE ROBERTS AND SETH – PROVES TO ME WITHOUT ANY DOUBT, THAT WHAT YOU JUST WROTE ME, HAS NO PLACE IN MY PERSONAL WORLD OR IN THE WORLD OF JANE ROBERTS AND HIS HUSBAND AND IN THE WORLD OF THIS UNWORLDLY SPIRIT CALLED SETH.
FRANKLY SPEAKING EVEN THOUGH I AM A CERTIFIED CHANNEL, I CANNOT UNDERSTAND ANYTHING THAT YOU WROTE IN YOUR REPLY.
NOT JUST FOR UNVEILING WHAT TELEPATHY IS ALL ABOUT USING IN MY OPINION THE FALSE BELIEFS OF OUR SCIENTISTS, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING – NON OF THE NOMENCLATURE, JARGON AS THEY CALL IT,
FOR MY EXPERIENCE AND MY DIRECT LINK WITH SPIRITUAL FORCES, TAKES PRECEDENCE OVER “REASON,LOGIC,INTELLECT” AND OTHER WAYS MEANT TO “EXPLAIN THE SOCALLED “UNEXPLAINABLE”
I RESPECT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING UT VEHEMENTLY DO NOT ACCEPT THE THEORIES THAT THE SOCALLED KNOW-IT-ALLS FABRICATED
TO STAY “ON TOP OF THE HEAP
YOU CAN BELIEVE THEM FOR WHATEVER REASON; I CERTAINLY CANNOT! HOWEVER, THE TIT FOR TAT IS NEVERTHELESS GOOD FOR
IT OPENS VISIONS.
CAN I BACK UP MY “BELIEFS”; CAN THE OTHER SIDE “BACK UP THEIR BELIEFS”??????????????????????????????????
ONE IN MY OPINION IS A “TRUMP WHO TRIES TO PLAY BOTH SIDES BY BEING IN THE MIDDLE; THE OTHER RELIES BASCIALLY ON EVIDENCE, NOT MANUFACTURED BY THE INDOMINABLE “EGO”
ONE IS A TRUMP; THE OTHER A SANDERS.
I AM INDEED FORTUNATE THAT I DID NOT GET “SUCKED IN BY THE ESTABLISHMENT/ ACADEMIA – VERY FORTUNATE, OTHERS NOT SO FORTUNATE.
AS WE PROGRESS IN THE TEACHINGS OF A TRUE GENIUS, DR SWEDENBORG AND THE STUDY OF THE ZODAR
ALL OF THESE DICHOTOMIES WILL “DROP BY THE WAYSIDE WHERE THEY ORIGINALLY BELONG.
WHEN 98% of the worlds people live in IGNORANCE – a proven fact
based on the ego mentality system – EGOS CANNOT OPERATE IF THEY ARE CONNECTED TO THEIR “SOURCE” WHY? THE EGO IS THEIR SOURCE, EGOS PROPOUNDING FALSE BELIEFS ARE THEIR SOURCE; THEY KNOW NOTHING OF WHAT THE REAL MASTERS LAO TZU SOCRATES, PLATO, EDGAR CAYCE ETC. UNCOVERED IN THEIR LFETIME.
OF COURSE BEFORE HE DIED EINSTEIN IN HIS OWN WAY INDICTED HIS PROFESSION BIG TIME.
AND GOING BACK, OTHER GREAT SPIRITUAL BEINGS ALSO SCIENTISTS DID THE SAME THING.
YOUR FRIEND, ALWAYS,
- THE PROOF OF THE PUDDING OF COURSE IS WHEN WE DIE –
“IT ALL COMES OUT “IN THE WASH” AS THEY SAY – USING TELEPATHY WHY NOT COMMUNICATE WITH WAYNE DYER AND FIND OUT FOR OURSELVES, ITS CALLED TELEPATHY; NOTHING CAN DIE IN THIS SPIRITUAL WORLD SO WHY NOT? THE SPIRITUALIST ARE VERY GOOD AT TALKING TO PEOPLE WHO DIED – ON THE ASTRAL DIMENSION OF COURSE, THEY ARE VERY ACCURATE USING WHAT? TELEPATHY OF COURSE! KNOWLEDGE BASED? WHY NOT GO DIRECT, WHY USE THE VIEWS OF HISTORIANS WHO BASE THEIR CLAIM ONTHEIR EGOS.?
On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 10:58 AM, < > wrote:
The word “Telepathy” is not an Esoteric term but, rather, as is most of our lexicon,
it’s a word that emanates from a concept first promulagted by science. Originally,
the concept was expressed by “Though Transference” but telepathy is the term that
has become the standard. The term Telepathy was coined by English Psychologist
and Physicist Frederic Myers in the late 19th Century, and it originated to describe
“feeling, perception from afar (distance)’.
Human telepathy as well a physical telepathy has been and is presently being investigated;
it’s a concept that has valuable applications for everything human
The human historical record applies not only to the past but to the present and the future,
for human behavior and action postulates the idea of the evolutionary process of humanity.
Because most of our historical record falls under the category of recorded past events, many
people make the mistake of attributing the human record only to the past. That’s not the case.
We know that the past can and is used to understand the present and project the future. This
is the definition of “true human history”, which would include the inherent concept of telepathy
I would not be considered to be an “expert historian”. In academia, there is the saying, “Publish
or Perish”, meaning that you are only “somebody” is you have a bibliography with your name
on it. Lacking that, I can only be considered a knowledgeable person of history.
The following quote is where you and I mostly diverge, “TELEPATHY IF UNDERSTOOD
CORRECTLY DEALS ONLY WITH THE FACT THAT THEIR IS NO “PHYSICAL STRUCTURE”
INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS OF THE PAST/PRESENT/FUTURE TRIOLOGY.” My understanding
is that ‘everything-that-exists’ is inextricably connected both in physicality and consciousness. Thus
telepathy does have a physical as well as a spiritual explanation. That what scientists are working on.
Then, there is the science of the Holographic Principle to further corroborate my point of understanding.
As we both well know, the “bondage of false belief is premised mostly on ignorance’. Thus ignorance
of the concept called telepathy would confirm the existence of ‘false belief systems’. Thus, if science
is involved with this concept, the onus rests on the individual person to become aware and cognizant of
- And this responsibility is true for all fields of human endeavor. If a person doesn’t know, he/she cannot
properly and effectively formulate an opinion about anything, much less be able to connect the dots.
Rothman, Maurice <
To: Jose Luiz <
Sent: Sat, Jun 11, 2016 9:44 am
Subject: TELEPATHY IS IT “A FACT” OR JUST A THEORY
WHAT DO YOU THINK SCIENTISTS/ACADEMIA\ BELIEVES TELEPATHY IS?
IS IT A “FACT OR A FRAUD”
YOU WORKED FOR ACADEMIA FOR YEARS THAT IS WHY I AM
IF ITS A FRAUD THAN IT SHOULD BE ‘EXPOSED AS A FRAUD” IF ITS A “FACT” IT THEN SHOULD BE RESPECTED AS A FACT.
THE DICTIONARY CALLS IT “SIMPLY-MIND-TO MIND” SAYS NO MORE ABOUT IT, AS IF IT IS TOTALLY UNEQUIVACBLY NOTHING OF SIGNIFICANCE.
THIS IS “SHOWDOWN TIME” WHY?
BECAUSE CON ARTISTRY WHICH OF COURSE HAS PROPONENTS PRETENDING TO BE OTHERWISE I.E. TRUST NOWADAYS THE FOREMOST – AND PROPONENTS FOR THE PAST THOUSANDS OF YEARS HAVE CONVINCED’HISTORIANS WHO ARE THE “CARETAKERS OF THE SOCALLED “RECORDS OF THE PAST” GENERALLY SPEAKING, TO MY LIMITED KNOWLEDGE OF COURSE
HAS FAVORED THE BELIEVERS THAT ALL OF THE EVENTS OF THE PAST AND THE MAJOR ACTORS IN THE DRAMA – HAD NOTHING IN COMMON WHAT THIS MYSTERIOUS WORD CALLED:
T E L E P A THY
PEOPLE “PLAYING AROUND WITH THIS SOCALLED “MIND-TO-MIND”
MIND BEING INTERPRETED TO “MEAN WHAT THEY BELIEVE AND THINK THE WORD “MIND” SHOULD BE UNDERSTOOD “AS TO MEAN”
WHICH OF COURSE “FOR THEIR MIND, DOES NOT AND CANNOT EXIST” SINCE IF IT CAN THEN THE “WHOLE SHABBAGE” WHICH WE CALL EVENTS/HISTORY IS A FIRST CLASS HOAX!
BEING A CERTIFIED HISTORIAN YOU ARE MORE EQUIPPED TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION IN MY OPINION, THEN ANYONE.
HISTORY OF COURSE MEANS “WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST AND PRESENT” HAS NO CONNECTION WHATSOEVER TO THE FUTURE
TELEPATHY IF UNDERSTOOD CORRECTLY DEALS ONLY WITH THE FACT THAT THEIR IS NO “PHYSICAL STRUCTURE” INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS OF THE PAST/PRESENT/FUTURE TRIOLOGY.
NOTHING WHATSOEVER SINCE “WHAT HAS BEEN IS AS “DEAD AS A DOORNAIL AS HEY SAY
AND WHAT DETERMINES THESE “OUTCOMES”?
TELEPATHY MEANS ALSO THAT THERE “IS” A MECHANIZM WHEREIN ENERGY SOURCES BEYOND THE PHYSICAL DIMENSION, IS CAPABE THRU THE PRINCIPLE OF “MEDIUMSHIP” TO “INFLUENCE” RESULTS IN THE WORLD CALLED THE 3RD DIMENSIONAL PHYSICALITY WORLD; THE WORLD OF “EFFECT”
IF THAT IS THE CASE WHY DOES “HISTORY IN GENERAL” PAY NO ATTENTION WHATSOEVER WITH THIS WORD “TELEPATHY” BUY HAVING LITERALLY SPEAKING “NO DEFINITION FOR IT, OTHER THAN
MIND/SPIRITUAL TO MIND/PHYSICAL.
IF OUR SCIENTIST ACCEPT THIS PREMISE – THAN SCIENCE MUST BE OBLIGATED TO INVESTIGATE THIS “STRANGE PHENOMENA
TO THE “POINT” OF “COMING TO SOME CONCLUSION” SO THAT THE PUBLIC AT LARGE CAN RELEASE THEMSELVES FROM THE BONDAGE CALLED “FALSE BELIEFS”
WHAT’S YOUR HONEST INCISIVE “TAKE ON THIS” YOU ARE MORE QUALIFIED THAN ANYONE I KNOW ”